Monday, 16 February 2009

How liberal are you? Take the test...


Created by LPUK


Want to know how liberal you really are? Head over to the libertarian website to find out.

You might be surprised...

8 comments:

RichW said...

given you invented the test your result is not surprising!

Some issues- whether climate change is happening aside, I think that government intervention on the environment *can* be justified by a libertarian. That's not to say it would necessarily be a good thing, even when justified philosophically (I suppose there wouldn't be distinction for purely consequentialist Libertarians)

Also, If you can justify coercing taxes to provide for Armed Forces, you can justify using them to expand the freedom of others, by overthrowing a dictator I believe. Though I appreciate most Libertarians will be opposed to such action in general. (I'm probably more 'hawkish' than most Libertarians, myself)

Also, does the objection to DNA retention apply to ex-convicts and not just those currently incarcerated? If you can justify imprisoning them, I think you can justify retaining DNA.

TBR said...

Rich -- the test wasn't really for people like yourself you understand the intracacies of liberalism.

It was more for people who had never considered themselves or liberal. Or those who thought they were liberal becasue the support Band Aid or Oxfam.

On the subject of DNA though why should the state be allowed to hold something against you once you have served your time? If you're a gross threat to society you simply should not be released from prison. Therefore there is no reason why the state should retain DNA records.

Citizen Stuart said...

I scored 90%. I only lost that 10% because I think it's sometimes a good idea to overthrow foreign tyrants. I'm a very hardline liberal.

Miller 2.0 said...

My social and liberalism is incidental, but given the circumstances, much more pronounced on the social side.

By the way, nice to see some Libertarians who aren't obsessed with gibbering and fart jokes! Messrs Nozick, Hayek and Rand would be proud.

Miller 2.0 said...

Sorry, meant to say 'social and economic'.

TBR said...

Stuart -- Here's a question, would overthrowing Brown be classified as overthrowing a foreign tyrant?

RichW said...

Rob

What if you consider the DNA retention as part of the sentence? For example, is 5 years imprisonment for crime x, plus a further 10 years DNA retention any more or less liberal/libertarian than just a straight 10 years in prison?

I'm not necessarily saying it's a good idea and long term DNA retention for short/non custodial sentences is certainly the state overstepping it's mark, but it's hard to reasonably justify as a black or white matter.

That said, you could (and perhaps should) argue that you should, if in doubt, err on the side of liberty, but that's really just about where you draw the line, since it's not philosophically inconsistent.

ps. I know, I'm just being difficult, but I wouldn't be a Libertarian if I wasn't...

Citizen Stuart said...

TBR - No, Brown's just a homegrown tosser. In any case, he's likely to be "overthrown" soon by the normal democratic process. I was thinking more in terms of types like Hitler and Stalin